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LWCG Crossover Climber Reviews

Plebe said:
And yet you have Latitude sticks, which missed their release date and makeup delivery schedule on multiple occasions.
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And that has WHAT to do with the LWCG crossover issue at hand? Is your self-appointed job on SH to add snark to every topic?

To be clear, I bought my Latitude sticks in early November when they were readily available. Can the same be said of the Crossover stand today?
 
I don’t have a horse in this race, just a general commentary on the industry. In a lot of ways we’ve moved into a new era of ultra premium equipment that’s never existed before. We’re accustomed to seeing relatively simple designs mass produced for sale in retailers across the country. This whole custom-small-batch-direct-to-consumer model is a different animal.

A lot of people here probably remember, it wasn’t that long ago when discontinued plastic Ameristeps were the hottest commodity in saddle hunting. People were hitting refresh all day on the classifieds hoping somebody found another set at a garage sale :D Now we’re talking about carbon fiber climbing sticks and machined aluminum platforms. Delays suck but tech in saddle hunting has come a tremendously long way in a short time.
 
Alaska at Heart said:
And that has WHAT to do with the LWCG crossover issue at hand? Is your self-appointed job on SH to add snark to every topic?

To be clear, I bought my Latitude sticks in early November when they were readily available. Can the same be said of the Crossover stand today?
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I think the dots are easy to connect between the Latitude stick launch and what you’ve had to say about the Crossover. It’s not personal.

Look forward to your review of the Crossover when it’s readily available.
 
Guys, please let's not make any of this personal against each other.

Unfortunately this type of situation has become the standard for many of the companies in the industry. As long as all of you, the end users, continue to make these purchases they have no reason to change their model.

I've been known to like a new piece of gear as much as the next guy but what I have learned during the process is that it is unlikely that the new piece of gear that you are purchasing sight unseen is going to be as much of a game changer as you think. There are certainly exceptions to this but personally I'm waiting for reviews on any new gear I'll purchase at this point and making sure it has been thoroughly tested.

FWIW this is my feelings on the industry as a whole and not directed at LWCG. I have purchased a few things from them and waited out their timelines. I still have a camera arm from them but have passed on the others.
 
Plebe said:
I think the dots are easy to connect between the Latitude stick launch and what you’ve had to say about the Crossover. It’s not personal.

Look forward to your review of the Crossover when it’s readily available.
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Clearly your 'connect the dots' and mine do not lead to the same conclusions. In your world, can you accept that someone else has an alternate and yet valid position? Maybe focus on the topic at hand rather than assessing the views and opinions of others with your posts. In a different thread topic on climbing sticks, you had a lot to say about other posts, but when asked for your personal recommendation.......you declined?

And don't hold your breath for a review of the LWCG Crossover. I know where I can buy a Barrern Ridge saddle climber for $100....one tenth of the Crossover.....and not leave half of the unit hanging on my shed wall. If and when they become readily available, a bunch of folks will have been turned off by the MO of the brand. That should ber fairly clear from the trajectory of the current discussion.
 
Alaska at Heart said:
Clearly your 'connect the dots' and mine do not lead to the same conclusions. In your world, can you accept that someone else has an alternate and yet valid position? Maybe focus on the topic at hand rather than assessing the views and opinions of others with your posts. In a different thread topic on climbing sticks, you had a lot to say about other posts, but when asked for your personal recommendation.......you declined?

And don't hold your breath for a review of the LWCG Crossover. I know where I can buy a Barrern Ridge saddle climber for $100....one tenth of the Crossover.....and not leave half of the unit hanging on my shed wall. If and when they become readily available, a bunch of folks will have been turned off by the MO of the brand. That should ber fairly clear from the trajectory of the current discussion.
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Lets not get this thread shut down. Thanks.
 
I have a .5 and 1.0 and they're by far the best stands I've ever used for their purpose.They're over priced but worth it to me.I planned on buying a crossover for my son as a graduation present last year but held off,waiting to see what XOP was coming out with in Jan.When XOP announced that they wouldn't be coming out with anything,I ordered the crossover.I haven't heard a thing in over a month but expected as much.I'm sure it will get here in due time and I expect it will be worth waiting for.I have no clue what they're up against as far as supply chain issue.I did here they had 140+ on order and they were waiting for some machined knobs.
 
UPS just dropped the crossover off.Initial impressions are pretty good.It's light enough that you won't even know it's on your back.It folds up extremely flat and fits together with two rubber grommets.A small t-shaped key locks the top and bottom together for transport with no rattle.The bottom rails slide up at the same time when unfolding with no effort while the top folds and unfolds similar to the old sit and climb.Packing and unpacking the things literally takes seconds,which is an improvement over the old alpha and assault.I'll put it on some trees over the weekend and we'll see how it does.
 
Finally having it in hand, I can say it is worth the wait as well as the cost. It showed up yesterday.
You have to have it in hand to appreciate the detail, and clearances of everything when collapsed.

Having bought it with discounted $500 gift cards as well as the Black Friday discount it now feels like an absolute steal compared to the prices some are paying for 25+ year old hand climbers.

Haven't had it on a tree yet, but other than adding a bow holder, inverting the position of the seat web strap slider buckles to not have plastic on metal contact and likely filing down the nasty points of the teeth of the platform and hand climber, I don't think I'll touch it. Not even Stealth Strip.

I don't think you'd want or need a larger platform than this. Which was my only concern when buying it. To heft it, any more weight would be more than I'm interested in for a climber. If a .75 suits you, (which it does me) then this is your climber.
 
For anyone else waiting to receive their stand. It doesn't or should I say mine didn't come with the backpack straps installed as Andre states they will in the video. I wouldn't install them as shown or as he doesn't show them installed here. Theres a better way.


The tree teeth are nasty sharp and I mean nastier than necessary and there's no way in hell I want them anywhere near my head or neck. Lose your footing or your feet come out from under you decending a steep grade with your hands full and the stand is the first thing to contact the ground before your ass and I don't have to tell you where those teeth end up.

Don't wrap the stabilizer straps or the tag ends as he shows either. The web strap is slippery and I'm sure you'll find them trailing behind you after the first 100' snagging briars and bushes and anything in your path.

Don't cut them as suggested either. Configured differently you can use the whole strap. And you'll want them full length if used as I've shown to prevent any rattles or if using them to strap your outer layers to the stand which I do.

You need ~16" length of Tygon or PVC tubing as protection from the teeth. You could substitute with fiberglass reinforced automotive heater hose, and rubber hose might be easier to work with in cold weather, but it will be more expensive and may have more odor to it. Simply roll the tube off the teeth after separating hand climber and platform and it sits attached to the stand out of the way beneath the teeth when climbing. I used some better grade Ty-wraps as well. Just the one piece of tubing provides some protection from both rows of teeth.

I'd also suggest you not test your climbing on any trees you value or don't want to kill. Enough climbs and this stand is likely to have the same effect as ringing a tree with a chainsaw. I plan to knock the teeth down some after using it a bit first. Actually a little concerned regarding state regs regarding stands and tree damage on state lands.

I've shown the only places I felt could use Stealth Strip. I'll also likely wrap the sit bar.

Last thing I plan to do is heat shrink all the strap anchor points.

Going to use it to kill some coyotes but looking more forward to using it in September.
 

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I climbed some trees over weekend.I've owned every LW climber combo out there.For years my go to stand was an assault climbing platform with either the hand climber top or sit and climb top with a Hazmore net seat.It's important to not that I'm 5'10" 210lbs with a 33" waste.This is very similar to the old stand except it's much lighter and they improved on several things.First,it's so light that you don't even notice it on your back.The top and bottom sections fit together perfect and can be assembled or disassembled in about 20 seconds.The mechanism used to unfold is much improved.The top section is the biggest improvement.You sit on top of the bars and the seat is actually pretty comfortable and fold out of the way very easily.I have a 33" waste so I had plenty of room.Any bigger and it may be tight.The platform is small and you notice it when you sit.When you stand,there's plenty of room.A 1.0 version platform would be better for guys who sit most of the time.Climbing is a piece of cake,both going up and coming down.My size 10 boots fit into the stirrups with easy.I never had an issue putting my feet under the rails and may actually prefer that.The stirrups however are the reason why it unfolds so easily.Overall,I look at it as a lighter,more comfortable and easier to use version of the old assault climber.Is it worth 1K?That's a question only each individual can answer.For a light,mobile,easy to use climber that's not bad to sit in,it can't be beat.
 
They are back in stock if anyone got pumped after seeing the video.
I like the stand but it is just too small for me.
 
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