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Learning from Saddle Hunting Accidents

I don't know if this is the correct way or not.......when I climb I use my lineman and set it up to were while I'm going thru the procedure of climbing im leaned back almost past the point of gravity on the verge of being unstable.....I use the rope like arm extensions flipping the line up, squeezing in to make the rope grip the tree tighter, and pulling myself up. When I stop to set a climbing method or platform I cinch up tight to the tree. Climbing out on the edge of unstable makes me use correct climbing technique and never let my linesman below my waist/3 points of contact/etc.......granted I've never had a totally unexpected drop, but in all my testing if I can keep a straight head and remember to bring my knees into the tree and lean back (I'm already on the verge of being "too far" back) I'm stopping pretty quick. If I lost consciousness/couldn't keep a straight head im going down....Im ok with this level of risk but would not recommend it to anybody else....advancing a girthed hitched tether up a tree trunk just isn't for me. Makes a bunch of noise in pine trees and I can't always remember safety glasses to keep bark outta my eyes. A buck squeeze is easy enough to add to a linesman if u wanted an additional level of safety....
 
For climbing on tree gaffs, one should be on both a choking system AND lanyard. It's a pain to do, but the only safe way.

If you fall on just a lanyard, yes, you can go straight down unless Lady Luck is on your side and you get caught on a nub.
We were not talking about climbing on hooks but climbing on sticks. Where using a squeeze isn’t an option. The climbing stick strapped to the tree is your nub
 
We were not talking about climbing on hooks but climbing on sticks. Where using a squeeze isn’t an option. The climbing stick strapped to the tree is your nub

Someone here had mentioned awhile back about crossing your linemans, so in the event of a fall it kind of "squeezes" the tree. I cant remember who it was. Basically take your linemans rope from the left side of the saddle, pass around the right side of the tree, come back from the left side, then hook in to the right side of your saddle. What are your thoughts on doing it that way?

BT
 
The injuries I've seen/heard of involve knees/ankles twisting from "kick outs", cuts/scrapes/bruises from mishaps with climbing sticks, fingers smooshed underneath of ropes, etc......the 2 real falls i can think of were user error and or equipment being used incorrectly. As long as u take ur time, use common sense, 3 points of contact, and always be tied off to the tree with the appropriate equipment it is difficult to hurt urself
I will add to Weldabeasts stuff-ya-gotta-do list: Use a locking carabiner.
 
"Practice anything new only a couple of feet off of the ground at first. Take your time, don’t try to fly up the tree or do it in as few moves as possible."

I'm not going to engage the ongoing debates about the finer points, but did find this little gem to be very worthwhile in my own saddle learning curve. I'm only one season in, but researched equipment and techniques a significant amount before I purchased and got started. I bought my saddle setup used, but emailed the small business owner and we chatted a bit before I purchased it. While I was waiting for it to arrive, I watched a number of "Intro to saddle hunting" videos and began my learning in the basement on a support pole.

I put on the saddle, adjusted the fit, attached the linemans to the pole as I would at ground level in the woods, shifted to the tether in my left dump pouch, stowed the linemans in the empty left dump pouch, retrieved the linemans and reattached, removed the tether and put it back, then removed the linemans......simulating the technique and sequence of a typical hunt. I did that process every day at least twice for over a week until I felt memory and muscle memory taking over. During that time I acquired a platform, so I went to a local friend's home with a 25 acre woods to test it above ground.....but only one stick high. I attached the stick, attached the platform just above and to the right side, attached the linemans, climbed two steps to the platform while moving the linemans, got on the platform, shifted to tether, removed the linemans and after a few minutes reveresed the steps and climbed down using the linemans. Then I moved to another tree and started over.

My first hunt was from a pre-set stick and fixed stand setup already in the woods. I simply used the linemans of my saddle for the ascent, climbed aboard the stand platform, attached my tether, installed the accessory strap, removed my pack, hauled up my bow and hunted. I left the stand seat up and utilized my saddle while testing out some budget knee-pads I had obtained from Harbor Freight. The next hunt I utilized a set of pre-set sticks, climbed up, set my platform, climbed aboard and set my tether, installed the accessory strap, hauled up my bow and saddle hunted for the first time off the platform. After a few hunts from pre-set sticks, I went 'solo' from the ground up with everything in a pack on some local public land. By then I had a pretty good 'system' developed for the saddle and rigging aspects and just had to learn the nuances of the particular sticks. A half dozen hunts like that and I really felt like I was smoothing out the kinks and was loving the saddle more each hunt.

My last saddle hunt in mid-December, I killed a doe with my first shot from a saddle and was really pleased with the whole process. I never once felt unsafe, having tested all my gear at or just above ground level and then under pretty controlled circumstances until my confidence was really solid. This worked well for me and while I don't see it as 'perfect', it certainly instilled a lot of confidence over a period of a few months. Over the winter I've done some DIY projects and added a few new facets, such as ditching a Ropeman 1 and going to a 'hitch' on my tether, which I have tested out several times on a stout branch of a front yard tree. Test EVERYTHING low.....go redundant if that makes you feel better......but give it a shot.
 
Great advice! I have poles in my basement that support a beam and I could start there for sure. I have a set of ladder sticks I plan to put on a tree out behind my house where I can practice at low height as well. Before the season starts I can move the ladder sticks to one of my favorite hunting spots to make the first few hunts a little easier. I hope the be one sticking by the middle of October when I head down to GA to hunt in the pine trees! Thanks for the advice!


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Brian in TN
I am 54 and started last year I started out one sticking, then platform climbing sort of one sticking I put a shaffer cam cleat on my xop edge platform with an aider It was to me more comfortable. Then I kept playing with 2T/C it is definitely safer than one sticking but takes time to get it down. Once you get it it is easy. I like a ring of steps I picked up 8 squirrel steps to give me 180 degrees of shooting. I can also use my platform if I want. I also think repelling is safer than climbing back down. I back up my madrock just in case something goes wrong not much can go wrong with the madrock but it makes me feel better.
 
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@Ballshooter thanks. I'm 61 and have a lot to learn. Thankfully I am retired and in good health so I can practice a lot. 2TC is something I aspire to learn at some point. The gear is so light and you can splurge on a larger platform if you want. I'll just have to see how I do. I have a one stick on order with EWO and my first saddle arrives today. I may be hanging in my saddle in the basement watching Staggs in the Wild videos later tonight if my wife doesn't want to go out to dinner!


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